J. Evans Dairy a Grade II listed building on the corner of Warren Street and Conway Street. Built 1793 and tiles circ. 1916 a rare surviving example of a Welsh dairy.
It is a cut through we cabbies use when wishing to turn into Euston Road from Tottenham Court Road, by turning down Warren Street we miss the traffic and join the bus lane at Great Portland Street which also has the added advantage if you time it correctly of enabling you to collect your evening newspaper without the inconvenience of having to stop as the friendly vendor standing on the corner presses the paper into your hand. I have used this cut through numerous times and have always admired this little corner shop with its blue tiles hardly realising how important the shop was.
French’s Dairy, Rugby Street
[B]efore we had supermarkets which now supply all our provisions, we were served quite adequately by door deliveries and one of the last to survive is the milkman.
From about 1860 onward, as a result of hard times in Wales, many Welshmen, especially from Cardiganshire set up dairy businesses in London.
Keeping cows on the premises in the middle of London, many if these dairies were set up in close proximity to the Marylebone/Euston Road which leads directly from Paddington Station, the mainline terminus of the Great Western which serves South Wales (in fact until very recently all early morning trains were still called ‘milk trains’).
In King’s Cross Road there is a faded sign of a company that supplied all the paraphernalia needed to produce milk products.
Lloyds Dairy, Amwell Street
London is home to the oldest and largest Welsh community outside Wales. The middle of the 19th century saw an exodus of Welsh dairymen to London with many setting themselves up as dairies. By 1900 it is estimated half of all dairies in the capital were Welsh.
Even by 1950 there were still over 700 Welsh dairies in the City. The last survivor in Clerkenwell is believed to have closed as recently as 2001.
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Amwell Street is literally just around the corner from us and I know Lloyds Dairy well. These days it is run by Unpackaged, an eco-friendly shop that sells from bulk and invites you to bring your own bottles, bags and boxes.
Before that, it did briefly become a Welsh grocery store again, selling all sorts of wonderful products from Wales. We bought a few things there to try and would have bought more but the business mysteriously closed for reasons that never became clear (though, bizarrely, “staff holidays” were blamed at one point).
There are many old specialist food shops (diaries, grocery stores, butchers’ shops, bakeries, etc) still visible in London, though not all are as well preserved as Lloyds and your other example, French’s. They can often be recognized by such features as the aeration grill running across the top of the shop window, hooks above this for hanging out goods on display and the tiling on the walls.
In cases where English Heritage has listed the building, it is often recorded in the listing text what the business was but in other cases it is harder to discover its history which might, after all, be quite mixed.
When you look at older buildings in London you don’t always immediately know what you are looking at. It sometimes takes a sharp eye and a certain intuition to recognize something a little out of the ordinary. But what a feeling of satisfaction when that intuition turns out to be right!
My great grandmother Mary Elizabeth Rowlands was born in Tre Taliesyn in Cardiganshire, and according to family legend was sent to work in a Welsh dairy in Little Britain sometime between 1871 and her marriage to a Londoner, Joshua Sparks, in 1881, her age then was 21. It was rumoured that she may have been sent because she got pregnant outside marriage, but I also think it may have been due to poverty, as her father had disappeared by 1871 at home in Wales.
Thank you for this information on Welsh dairies. It helps reinforce family oral history! If by any chance anyone stumbles across information on this dairy in Little Britain, please let me know. Hitler of course put pay to that part of London during the blitz.
Thanks for your comment that’s intriguing. That only other information about Welsh Dairies I have found is the series of documentaries ‘Disappearing London’ fronted by Suggs. You also might like to check out this site:
I have just had passed on to me your comment on the Cabbie Blog of some years back re the erstwhile Welsh fairy in Amwell St.
You might be interested
in my book on the general subject of LW dairies: Cows, Cobs and Corner Shops, pub. 2018, ISBN 978 1 78461 1 526 0
Just a thought
I love you book’s title. I’ll certainly look into it.
I have just seen your response to a Cabbieblog of some years ago on London Welsh dairies.
You might be interested in a book I had published two years ago: Cows. Cobs and Corner Shops. ISBN 978 1 78461 1 526
Just a thought
I found this old egg box in the Provence (Bédoin, to be precise).
Couldn’t resist it and bought it.
Dairy Outfit Co~, King’s Cross, London.
Interesting to find the lettering of the old company, still visible on the facade.
I have some pics.
Should I post these?
My grandfather’s parents had a Dairy behind their house at No 84 Clifden Road, they were George and Emma Wright. I’m still looking for more information about them x
I take it that is Clifden Road E5 because I’ve found two others. Good luck with finding more about them.
Thank you Gibson for the reply….Yes i’ll keep trying….Great webpage too x
Searching Wales census and finding there were several refs to dairymen (and women) named Evans in London,and wondering why so many from Wales. Your comments have been gratefully acknowledged.
Jenkin Evans may be the J.Evans in photo.
If you can get access (Ancestry, Find My Past) it’s worth looking in the old trade directories of an area. They might have details of any Welsh dairies and the owners.
Thanks for your reply’s, just had Ancestry UK for Xmas (what happened to Clubbin) lol, i’ve also has some great help off Ken Jacobs too, thanks again x x
Good luck with your searching
Will let you know anything i find x
Are you aware of Megan Hayes’ book on the Welsh dairy trade in London in the mid-19th century.its in welsh, but here’s a book review in the London Welsh Society’s newsletter. The book is in welsh.
Click to access LW67.pdf
Just received this in an email from her earlier this week:
“You might be interested to know that the publication date of the book in which you have a contribution is nearly here – it’s being printed this week and is due to be on the stall of The Welsh Book Council at the Royal Welsh Agricultural Show , Llanelwedd, 20- 22nd July.”
The English version i called The London Milk Trail, (by Megan Hayes), ISBN 978-1-84527-551-8. Your contribution is on pg.93 -thank you so much for bothering to send it.
Thanks for taking an interest in CabbieBlog, unfortunately my Welsh is a bit rusty these days. When you look at the old shop fronts it’s incredible just how many Welsh dairies there were in London. Now unfortunately there are hardly any independent dairies – anywhere.
Wrights Dairy 74 Clifden Road, Hackney is now called ‘Clockwork Mews’ I have a photo of early 1900 and one from 1970-80’s x
I seems now in London every commercial building is now being turned into ‘executive’ flats.
Thats true, way out of my reach haha x
My husbands gt grandmother was a catherine Evans Her father was evoan evans milkman on marriage certificate.Cleveland Street.Bethnal Green any help please thank you Brends
It’s remarkable how many replies I’ve had about my post on Welsh dairies. Thanks for taking the time to read my small contribution.
Try this link, I know the family business is Jones, but they were Welsh and the dairy was situated very close to Cleveland Street, Bethnal Green.
The Gentle Author the writer of the post is a well respected journalist and authority of this area of London.
I stayed with Ann Williams and her brother Gwyn during the summer of 1971.Their parents worked hard delivering milk and running a dairy shop somewhere near Marble Arch. We helped a tiny bit, filling rolls to sell in their shop but we girls spent most of the time seeing the sights of London ! I have come to live in North Wales from Yorkshire and finding my own Welsh roots and curious to contact these kind folk & also know where the shop might have been…? ‘Henny’ (nee Helen Ware)
I’m amazed about how many people contact me about Welsh dairies. Hopefully your short message will help to find these persons
This is a response to a comment I found – concerning London Welsh dairies in Cabblog piece some years ago but which hs just been brought to my notice.
You may be interested in a book I had published two years ago on the topic – Cows, Cobs and Corner Shops, ISBN 978 1 7846 1 526 0.
It traces the history of the ‘industry’ from the time of the drovers to the present day.
history from the time of the drovers to the present day. Megan Hayes